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Help with a New Processor?

Discussion in 'Computers & Modding' started by Dynodevil, Jan 25, 2010.

  1. Dynodevil

    Dynodevil Well-Known Member

    Heeyyy :)

    I currently run a AMD Phenom Quad Core processor and i've issues since day one with it, it's now finally decided to pretty much pack up and die, giving me blue screens on a regular basis so i desperately need to change asap.

    The problem i have is, i don't know what CPU's would take to my motherboard. I currently have an ASUS M2N-SLI, i'd like a dual or tri core processor but i presume not any old one would do. Any suggestions? ;D
     
  2. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    are you sure its the processor at fault?
     
  3. Dynodevil

    Dynodevil Well-Known Member

    From what i've read before the BSOD i get is the same one and it reads as such

    "A clock interrupt was not received on a secondary processor..."

    After venturing to AMD's forums there's many people have had a similar issue and it's usually down to the fault of the processor. Also, the pc i have can take a 64Bit OS yet when i put one on, after 5 minutes a get the same BsoD and i thought that was due to the higher power needed to run such OS's. Similarly if i make the machine do alot of work or i leave it on for prolonged amounts of time. As of now i run Win7 32Bit and just get the problems with the workloads etc.

    That's why i'd rather just replace the thing and move on :)
     
  4. damanali

    damanali Well-Known Member

    um loony, is there a possible way to close a core? like if its quad core, can you close 1 core to make it triple, or 2 for a dual core? just a question...dont really know these cores....

    i just go with 3.0Ghz and i'm fine. lol
     
  5. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    some bioses allow you to, and there are other ways of doing it (programs such as phenom MSR tweaker), but it requires a reboot to take effect. You can't go from 2 to 1, or from anything to less than 2, because that would badly fuck up windows. but you could go from 4 to 3 or 2, and I could drop my 8 to 2 (theoretically, phenom MSR tweaker doesn't actually work on opterons). Were it not for that, and the having to reboot to change it, I'd have configured my system to run 2 coress most of the time and only more when they're needed.
     
  6. damanali

    damanali Well-Known Member

    I asked it, cause his problem is about processor, right? So he has a quad, meaning his comp is detecting 4 processor, is that right? if he is experiencing a problem with a secondary processor, so, shouldn't he just close that part and become a triple core? so he can salvage his processor instead of getting rid of the whole?

    Just my thought, not really into this cause my comp is just dual-core...and can't understand the use of more than 2.
     
  7. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    he probably has no idea which core it is causing the problem. It's better just to return it and get a warranty replacement though.
     
  8. damanali

    damanali Well-Known Member

    ok, last question before you kick my balls...
    So you can downgrade a processor for 4 to 3 and 3 to 2 but cant go to 2-1, right?
    And by overclocking, means your making a dual core get speed by opening a core in itself? by making a 2 into 3 even if its just a dual-core?

    I'm really confused with overclocking, cause you said in other threads, its a big problem if you overclock without knowing what you are doing. so just leave it alone...

    so my final question is, how do you overclock and know the full potential of the comp?
     
  9. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    overclocking is increasing the clock speed either by increasing the front side bus, or the multiplier. You cannot increase the number of cores unless there are already disabled cores on the chip (the dual cores and tri cores that AMD sell now are quad cores with disabled cores). unlocking factory disabled cores is a bad idea because they're disabled for a reason, in other words the disabled cores are faulty.

    It is possible to go to less than 2 cores, but doing so will fuck up windows and require a reinstall.

    overclocking is usually carried out in the bios, and you need to monitor temperatures to avoid going too high.
     
  10. rexraidei

    rexraidei Member

    If I found the correct motherboard that you have, it's an AM2 socket. If this is correct, that is where your problem lies. The issue is the motherboard not being fully compatible with your CPU. Both triple core and quad core processors are not fully compatible with normal AM2 socket motherboards. These CPU's were designed for AM2+ and AM3 socket motherboards. This explains the BSOD errors because of the motherboard having compatibility issues, such as clock interruptions not being sent/received.

    Sadly, this means that to get a new CPU, you'll either need to get a new motherboard that has an AM2+ socket; Or you have to downgrade to a dual core AM2 socket processor. After looking at both options, I'd recommend upgrading the motherboard. Judging by the looks and specs of your board it looks to be fairly old, and buying an older model Athlon X2 Dual Core is a good $50-$55. It'd just be better to spend an extra ten bucks on a brand new motherboard than on an older model processor. The "high performance" from the older processor compare to what you COULD have and definitely wouldn't be worth what you can get for the same price now.