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Help Needed on choosing Best PSU And GFXcard for my system....Please.

Discussion in 'Computers & Modding' started by Halo-101, Jan 29, 2011.

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  1. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    Heyy Guys well i have been saving up for a new PC System And So Far Have Decided On These Components

    Intel Core i5 650 Processor LGA1156 3.2GHz 4MB Cache CPU
    Asus P7H55-M LX LGA1156 4DDR3 GLAN 1PCIEx16 mATX
    Kingston 2GB DDR3-1333MHZ
    Kingston 2GB DDR3-1333MHZ
    Seagate SATAII 500GB 7200RPM (SV35 Surveillance
    Samsung 22X DVDRW Black SATA (SH-S223C-BL)
    ASUS PCI-G31 54Mbps Windows 7 Ready WLAN PCI Card
    CoolerMaster Centurion RC333 Elite Black HD Audio NO PSU(RC333KKN1)


    But now i am wondering which CPU and GFX Card I should get...

    The Games Of The Most Performance I Wish to play include:
    Dawn Of War 2,Darksiders,Borderlands,Prototype,Black Ops.Etc

    Quote from a later reply to a helper..:

    Any Help Appreciated Thankx In Advance.
     
    Halo-101, Jan 29, 2011
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  2. Suiseiseki

    Suiseiseki Well-Known Member

    Re: Nvidia 9800GT VS Asus EAH5450- What Is The Better Gaming Card?

    You can't splash out the extra money for an HD5770 (or better) or a GTX400-series? Because these cards you're asking about are absolute shit compared to modern tech. Black Ops in particular would only run on low.

    My recommendation would be dropping your power supply to 500-550W (as long as it's an 80 plus) and using the money you save by doing that to buy a better graphics card. I run three drives, a quad core CPU and an HD5750 and I only have a 600W power supply, much of which I don't even need. I could run my rig on a decent 500W. Most games now are GPU-bottlenecked, so you want the best card you can afford.

    But if you have to choose between those two cards in particular, the 9800GT is the better card. It's still fucking terrible. Neither of those have been "gaming cards" for at least two years.
     
    Suiseiseki, Jan 29, 2011
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  3. Cahos Rahne Veloza

    Cahos Rahne Veloza The Fart Awakens

    Re: Nvidia 9800GT VS Asus EAH5450- What Is The Better Gaming Card?

    Liteon is a better DVD-RW Drive in my opinion :)
     
    Cahos Rahne Veloza, Jan 29, 2011
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  4. Suiseiseki

    Suiseiseki Well-Known Member

    Re: Nvidia 9800GT VS Asus EAH5450- What Is The Better Gaming Card?

    In all honesty a DVD drive isn't a huge deal.
     
    Suiseiseki, Jan 29, 2011
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  5. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    Re: Nvidia 9800GT VS Asus EAH5450- What Is The Better Gaming Card?

    So Which Power Supply Is Recommended For My "Rig" With The Mother Board ,i5 etc.

    PSU​

    Antec 520W High Current Gamer Power Supply, 80+ Bronze
    Internet Price: $88.00

    CoolerMaster 650W GX 80+
    Internet Price: $105.00

    Huntkey 550W Jumper 80+Bronze12CM Power Supply
    Internet Price: $89.00

    SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ PSU
    Internet Price: $95.00

    PCCool Tank-T55-LUX 550W Backswept flow Heatpipe PSU 80+ Bronze
    longer it run,cooler it get
    Internet Price: $99.00

    SilverStone ST60F-P 600W PSU 80+
    Internet Price: $99.00

    SilverStone ST50F-ES 500W PSU 80+
    Internet Price: $65.00

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    GFX Cards​

    Sapphire ATI HD5770 Vapor-X OC Ed 1G GDDR5 PCI-E
    Internet Price: $149.00

    Asus EAH5750 FORMULA 1G 128-bit GDDR5, 700/4600 MHz DVI HDMI D-Sub
    Internet Price: $142.00

    Asus EAH5750-2DIS-1GD5 1G DVI HDMI
    Internet Price: $172.00

    Gigabyte ATI HD5750 OC PCI-E 2.0 1GB 128-bit DDR5
    Internet Price: $145.00

    Gigabyte HD5770 1G GDDR5 PCIE2.0 DVI HDMI DX11 R577UD-1GD
    Internet Price: $145.00

    Gigabyte HD5770 1G Silent GDDR5 PCIE2.0 DVI HDMI LP
    Internet Price: $190.00


    Power Colour ATI HD5770 1G GDDR5
    Internet Price: $129.00


    PowerColor ATI HD5750 1G DDR5
    Internet Price: $125.00

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    I would Like The Cheapest Option With The Best Performance for newer games eg.Black Ops.

    Also Note My Original Postings Total to $811 So i would like the upgraded/better perforance item to be under ,near or not over 50 dollars more.

    Thanks For The Help.
     
    Halo-101, Jan 30, 2011
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  6. Suiseiseki

    Suiseiseki Well-Known Member

    Re: Nvidia 9800GT VS Asus EAH5450- What Is The Better Gaming Card?

    Although I may help, I'm not doing it all for you. This is your build. Find the wattage on each of the components (I think the 760 is 95W), add it up, give yourself about 150-200W headroom in case you get a better graphics card in future. Work from there. It's preferable to get a well-branded PSU, since if you get a shitty one it could kill your PC.

    Gigabyte, ASUS and Sapphire are all good brands when it comes to a video card. Although the underlying chipset is the same, you'll get better support going with a well-recognised brand. Get the absolute best card you can afford. A 5750 will handle most things sufficiently except for Black Ops, but since I think that it's an atrocious game I can't tell you about what the performance would be like. You'd probably have to go on mid settings.

    Look, to be honest? I'm not sure you should be building this by yourself without someone you know in real life who has a bit more experience. You seem rather unprepared when it comes to understanding how to compare components through reviews and benchmarking tests. Some of the other build threads we've had here could provide an example of the ideal way to do things - you post a theoretical build, get feedback, then adjust the build based on what you know and repost. I'll make a thread to explain the process of building a PC soon.
     
    Suiseiseki, Jan 30, 2011
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  7. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    Re: Nvidia 9800GT VS Asus EAH5450- What Is The Better Gaming Card?

    I am just choosing the conponents .then umart builds them... i no u probbably wont do it but could u please help me choose the PSU AND GFX Card which i listed which would be the best for my intel i5 and for all the games...running any new game on medium would be great considering on m pc now i have to run spore on medium/low and thats pretty old left4dead2 low.etc.

    Please help im not very good with this stuff thats why i am attempting to seek help.. also if you no of a GFX card at the aimed price that could run black ops that would also be great..i just dont want my PC Going over 850 dollars...
     
    Halo-101, Jan 30, 2011
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  8. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    if you weren't using intel overpriced hardware it wouldnt be anywhere near $850
     
    Loonylion, Jan 30, 2011
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  9. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    isnt the i5 the best? i need my pc to play the newset games with best performance.t a fast rate....
     
    Halo-101, Jan 30, 2011
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  10. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    no the i5 is not the best. a phenom II would beat it flat.
     
    Loonylion, Jan 30, 2011
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  11. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    So This Is Better And Cheaper? And would it be better for me seems i would save a bit:

    Intel Core i5 650 Processor LGA1156 3.2GHz 4MB Cache CPU
    Internet Price: $196.00

    VS​

    AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHZ Black Edition
    Internet Price: $178.00

    AMD Phenom II AM3 955 Black Edition (3.2Ghz) 64-Bit Quad-Core CPU
    Internet Price: $158.00


    AMD Phenom II 555 DualCore 3.2GHz 80W BLACK ED
    Internet Price: $105.00

    :If it matters the OS i will be putting on this pc will either be
    XPSP3 32 Bit
    Or
    Win7 32Bit
     
    Halo-101, Jan 30, 2011
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  12. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    yes, either the 955 or the 965 are better than the i5, and you'll need a different motherboard as well, you'll need an AM3 board. Which is also likely to be cheaper.
     
    Loonylion, Jan 30, 2011
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  13. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    funny i always thought that Intel were the better company? well thats wat my dads alwayz said ..so:

    AMD Phenom II AM3 955 Black Edition (3.2Ghz) 64-Bit Quad-Core CPU
    Internet Price: $158.00

    Asus M4A88TD-M USB3 AM3 880G, 4DDR3 PCIE RAID VGA GLAN HDMI SATA3 mATX USB3.0
    nternet Price: $110.00

    Kingston 2GB DDR3-1333MHZ
    Kingston 2GB DDR3-1333MHZ
    Seagate SATAII 500GB 7200RPM (SV35 Surveillance
    Samsung 22X DVDRW Black SATA (SH-S223C-BL)
    ASUS PCI-G31 54Mbps Windows 7 Ready WLAN PCI Card


    SilverStone ST60F-P 600W PSU 80+
    Internet Price: $99.00
    /
    CoolerMaster 650W GX 80+
    Internet Price: $105.00


    Gigabyte ATI HD5750 OC PCI-E 2.0 1GB 128-bit DDR5
    Internet Price: $145.00

    /

    Gigabyte HD5770 1G GDDR5 PCIE2.0 DVI HDMI DX11 R577UD-1GD
    Internet Price: $145.00

    /

    Sapphire ATI HD5770 Vapor-X OC Ed 1G GDDR5 PCI-E
    Internet Price: $149.00


    So This System Would Be Better/Cheaper To Run The Newest Games?


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    BTW ive just had sumthing pointed out to me so i ask the question wats the difference between DX9-10-11?
     
    Halo-101, Jan 30, 2011
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  14. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    That's what everybody says. It's not necessarily correct. Intel currently have the edge on AMD for the first time since the early 90s, so in fact AMD have been better for nearly 20 years. As it currently stands, the intel i7s are better than AMD's phenom IIs, however the i7 costs more than you're willing to spend on your entire computer. the Phenom II is better than the i5.

    AMD have always been significantly cheaper than intel.
     
    Loonylion, Jan 30, 2011
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  15. Suiseiseki

    Suiseiseki Well-Known Member

    Constructing a new rig. The new i5 series utterly destroys the Phenom II judging by benchmarking and expert reviews. The 760 does outperform the 965 but only barely, so it's true that there's more performance in the AMD gear per dollar.
     
    Suiseiseki, Jan 30, 2011
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  16. Halo-101

    Halo-101 Well-Known Member

    760 VS 965? What Is This?

    And The AMD Motherboard seems cheaper and much better than my current pentium 4 so yer..also my dad says ATI GFX Cards are bad or sumthing today ...he says driver support not good or sumtin..explain?

    thnx 4 the help guys
     
    Halo-101, Jan 30, 2011
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  17. Suiseiseki

    Suiseiseki Well-Known Member

    Nothing wrong with ATI graphics cards - I've not had a problem with mine.
     
    Suiseiseki, Jan 30, 2011
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  18. Fire_Ice

    Fire_Ice Guest

    If you want a PC to game on build a PC wit parts such as AMD Phenom 2
    ASUS motherboard and an Nvidia Geforce Videocard

    That way you can play every game just fine.

    This system have I

    ASUS M4A78L-Micro Motherboard Socket AM2+ With fitting a AM3 CPU
    AMD Athlon X2 255 CPU (3.1 GHZ Dual Core) socket AM3
    Nvidia Geforce 9400 GT 512 MB DDR2
    160 GB HDD SATA
    250GB HDD SATA
    DVD burner SATA

    With this system I can play Dead Space 2 ,Gothic 4 , Prototype Mass Effect 1 and 2.
    All those games I can run at medium game settings or high game settings

    But that is just my opinion for gaming I only want AMD ASUS and Nvidia
     
    Fire_Ice, Jan 30, 2011
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  19. Conrannex

    Conrannex Guest

    http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af150/The_FalconO6/CurrentLogicalPCBuyingGuide/Guide.png
     
    Conrannex, Jan 30, 2011
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  20. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    ATi drivers are historically a lot less stable and reliable than nvidia. However, ATI are much cheaper than nvidia, and nvidia are also having major problems with their current cards, so at the moment ATi is the safer bet.
     
    Loonylion, Jan 30, 2011
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