Genetically Enhanced Humans

Topic about -

*Views on Genetic Engineering
*Side Effects
*Views on Later Life
*Religious Views
*And your Opninon on if you believe its Right / Wrong.

Other ways of saying "Genetically Enhanced Humans"

*Edited Humans
*Super Humans
*Cyborg Humans

My StateMent

Well I Personaly Go agenced Genetic Engineering. Reason becuase its Playing God. God Creates people the way he thinks is best and he does so because He/She believes its right, so Who are we to Change What he Created ?
Its like i make a toy and give it to you then you as soon as you got it change it to what you want. Genetic Engineering So far i believe has no Side Effects but thats because its tested on Animals. Now as far as we know the Animals probly have some sort of Chromosomes that we humans havnt got that allows Genetic Engineering to be done Properly. Also i do know that it does help people becuase were taking away there "Illnesses" before it has start to take effect but then, This Changes what a person is since everyone was created to be defferent.

Also Molding a Person before they are even born, Thats just full on wrong becuase with Genetic Engineering you can change there Eye color, Hair Color, Skin Color Etc and thats not fair because you dont know if the "Person" wants to be like that or not.

"The child produced this way has genetic information from two mothers and one father.[2] The changes made are germ line changes and will likely be passed down from generation to generation, thus are a permanent change to the human genome." (Wiki)

As you can see her It clearly Stats That once you have been Modified you will Permanetly Be Classed as a "Modified Human" Even you CHilderen so If a person has been Modified then they are Simply not part of there Orginal Heritage and they Form there own heritage. Now you can find that "Kool" but as for me i wouldnt want to loose my heritage.

"Human genetic engineering has the potential to change human beings' appearance, adaptability, intelligence, character and behavior. It may potentially be used in creating more dramatic changes in humans. There are many unresolved ethical issues and concerns surrounding this technology, and it remains a controversial topic." (Wiki)

This States to me that Modified Humans are new breeds of Civilizations that we have yet to find a Side effect that is a posabbilty to accure later in life if not then there Generations to come. So tell me? We do not have "Enough" Information to Class genetic Engeneering a Full on Success because it is for now but we dont fully Understand later generations since, THose times have yet to arrive.

"A virus that kills every one of its victims, by wiping out part of their immune system, has been accidentally created by an Australian research team. The virus, a modified mousepox, does not affect humans, but it is closely related to smallpox, raising fears that the technology could be used in biowarfare. (http://online.sfsu.edu/~rone/GEessays/gedanger.htm)

See here, Talking about Side Effects, This Is 1. well this is more Classed as a Accident, a Virus "Created" by Humans. How about if a Virus like this is Created in Human Terms that is potentuly Catch Able like "The Common Cold" Then dont you think that Humans will then be Killed By "Human Error" of Trying to Create the "Ideal" Human ?.
Now How about If this "Virus" is then Found by Terrorist? Then there will surely be a Biological Warefair That well kill us all. So Surely Scientist Should then believe that what they are trying to Accoplish is Wrong becuase of the Threats that will accure if things begin to go Wrong. Also Scientist Must know about Mutations Since they were the Smart asses to FInd out about it, If this Virus isnt catchable now, a few years it might be.

Personaly i Believe that Humans should be left alone, and / If Modified humans becomes the sh*t that everyone wants then that it is done with the littliest Modications to prevent Side Effects such as the Virus.

Wow, i Wrote so much. My head hurts

 

Artificially genitically enhanced humans are enevitable I think.

We have already enhanced a lot of plants and animals, not in the lab but by selective breeding. Think dogs, cats, wheat, corn etc.

I also genitically enhance my children, by selecting an intelligent and attractive mother.

Viral infections and radiation also continually alter our genome.

Here is why I think it is enevitable: You are told your unborn child will have a muscle wasting disease. You have the option of genetic manipulation that will not only correct the error, but make the child twice as strong as normal. Would you let your unborn child suffer the disease?

The other likely step as you mention is the creation of cyborgs. We have already seen the seeds sown on this one...

One of the major problems with genetic or cyborg enhancements is the likely scenario of the haves and the have nots. As usual 20% of the population will end up enhanced and the remaing 80% will not, creating a subclass of basic humans. How far will the gap need to be before the enhanced view the basic humans as we now view animals and themselves as another species?

 

I wouldn't want a son twice as strong, when he's older, he could beat me up It's against. Well genetic or not, eventually humans will probably evolve into new things, as they have done for millions of years. But genetic will probably increase this rate, or create something that isn't normal at all. But "modding" a fetus or something is quite wrong yes. They do it to animals, plants. I heard there was a thing where they crossbreed a cat and a dog, so they got the same traits for both parties, so it would be like the perfect pet, but it actually went psycho and went on a rage, it couldn't control itself. So then they just killed the thing and left the experimentation. But if something that could cause that became part of everyone's genes (transferred by water, air etc.), then it'd in the bloodline. Don't believe a thing I say.

 

I wants me a pair of jet black feathered wings & eyesight as keen as Eagles'.

I agree with genetic enhancements, so does a RomUlation buddy who'd definitely want cute furry cat ears & tail

 

Fuck yes. That's how I plan to do things
Genetic enhancements are inevitable in the future, like the topic starter said. What worries me, though is the imbalances it will bring by fucking up our evolution calendar. There's too much at stake here, and if things go wrong once we implement it, well, there goes the human race. I'm not against it; I'm just saying we should tread carefully, that's all.

 

Yes But Treading Carfully Ended Up Giveing humans a New Threat that if does Happen then it will be the end of Humans as we know it.

Ye i also do agree with you about that this should be done with Extreme care but still, a chance of that Virus happening to Humans and it beeing Catchable Then theres life gone for those who are Unfourtunate To catch the virus. i dont want to die by having the Tinyest Organism Eat away my Immune System. And whats worse is that they were beeing Carefull and they accidently Created the Virus.

 

i find it funny that in your original state ment you contradict yourself by stating that god made everything and then talk about genetics.
genetics proves evolution. but any way thats goin off topic.

it will happen one way or another, we already put bit of machinery in people to keep them alive and more and better machines will be produced in years to come.
there is reserch into stem cells but the life saving research is held up by idiots that say its wrong or goes against god.

 

The OP's opinion relies on a faulty premise.
You cannot prove God exists, therefore the conclusion that genetic engineering is 'playing god' is invalid.

Genetic Engineering and Evolution do not necessarily mean God does not exist. They certainly DO mean that the events of genesis aren't true, but it doesn't necessarily follow that no type of god exists. This is especially true regarding deism.

I find that genetic engineering has it's pros and cons.
Just to name one of each:

Many diseases and genetic abnormalities (hereditary) could be greatly reduced if not completely wiped out. This includes AIDS (there are quite a few people in Europe who have evolved a strong defense against HIV through generic mutation. Google it for more information.)

On the negative side, Genetic Engineering could be seen as the beginning of a biological human arms race. Bigger stronger soldiers would 'need' to be created to keep up with other countries. Purely speculative but I could see it happening.

Of course, there are many ethical issues, but most of them are religious in nature. God shouldn't be a part of any intellectual debate as there is no evidence. If one wants to argue that God dislikes genetic engineering I'd be well put to argue that unicorns DO like it, and the arguments would be equally plausible as well as equally unsound.

I'm pro-GE regarding the distant future, but I do support limitations. I certainly don't think our current society is capable of handling such technology responsibly at present. Perhaps when the US is less than 10% religious I'd be more willing to accept the idea.

 

I couldn't be bothered to read all the long (and in my opinion, boring) posts. Maybe they could make a copy of me that is bothered
Or better yet, they could have made you check your spellings and grammar more often 1Blacks1

As long as no more animals get hurt, I don't care if humans get genetically modded, it's the parents decision as the fertilised isn't even a significant life form at the stage they will be modding them... (I hope anti-abortionists don't have a bloody go at me for what I just said about fertilised eggs, "bla bla, fertilised eggs are people too!, bla bla, *Drools...")

And to religious people, shut up, you cause wars and kill people your "god" made, if religion thinks that is alright then little changes for something that isn't born is alright

Oh crap... I made a long post... I'm such a hypocrate... :

 

Oh, and the OP's 'giving and changing a toy' analogy is pretty funny considering we're on a rom and mod site @_@

I'd never buy an aftermarket product for my DS!

That's playing God!

 

First off, why is religion called to this matter? It has nothing to do with science.

Side effects - you tell me about something that hasn't side effects. Everything has their very own consequences. Will you stop driving because we might have a car crash? No. Should we stop because there can be nefarious consequences? No.

No more for this post, sleep's taking over me.

 

To be honest the human body as a wide range of faults. If we could fix these then maybe many things like cancer might not happen. But then again if we enhance humans they may thing of the none-enhanced ones as ants if know what I mean.

 

selective breeding is now showing its side effects now with such problems like too small of a cranium that their brain is being squashed and have seizure panic attackk and deaths weve caused dogs to get cancer more easily by changing hings. It makes me sick they shold never have messed with the animals. If we screw up the anmals then we wil all die.

 

selective breeding shows in humans.
take for example the olympics, who are the fastest most powerfull short distance runners. black men from countries that used to have a large slave trade industry.
sound barbaric i know but they where bread like dogs strong with the strong as it made for more productive workers.

 

And usually they are just better at sports and such than other races.

 

Does that work in other cases as well?
Is the statistical probability that white people are generally more educated than black people relevant?

I suppose one could say it's due to 'social subversion', but I honestly find that the majority of black people I talk to are not very intelligent.
Of course, I meet a lot of unintelligent people from every race and skin color, but black people almost always give me this impression.

Maybe it's just my area.

 

Yeah elk1007... Black people aren't generally as smart as whites, that's probably because our learning potential may be higher because of selective breeding between smart white people, better memory perhaps?
And show dogs were breeded wrong, mutts are actually healthier than pedigree's...

 

Diversity is actually a great thing.
"Pure Blood" is bullshit and actually makes one more vulnerable to disease.
I believe cheetahs are inbred to a point that they're dwindling.

 

Did I just read a few posts that just threw the race card out there blatantly?

People's intelligence is usually measured by their opportunities in life.
I live near Detroit and people have told me that my high school is WAY better than what they had in terms of academics.
My high school had classes that were harder than actual college classes. (Calc AB, Calc BC, AP courses, internship programs etc).
Their schools might be equivalent to a standard 8th grade level.

Their schools are horribly under-funded and under-staffed (under-staffed not in a quantitative measure, but qualitative).
No wonder you guys think it's purely genetics at fault for their lack of intelligence.
It also doesn't help that they are all concentrated in one specific area (like all other ethnic backgrounds are), which leads to a stereotype.

Before you guys throw a generalized statement out there that targets an entire race, make sure that it doesn't offend people. I am not black, but those comments were border-line offensive even to me.

I was going to post on-topic about genetically enhanced humans but the ignorance in this thread kinda pissed me off.

 

Genetic can effect everything from physical traits to intelligence. It's true that one can try harder and theefore become more knowledgable and even more intelligent in practice.
However, some human beings are more intelligent than others. Their brains work differently and more efficiently.
It only follows that, if genetics can assist in an intelligence capacity, that race would be a factor. Different races are grouped because they are from specific lines of ancestors and geographical areas. Therefore, they would have similar genes.