FF7 Fanboys - How incorrect they are

I honestly wish i could say this topic isn't me complaining about the amount of FF7 fanboys. All they do is use an excessive amount of capitals and exclamation marks and say how good final fantasy 7 is when 40% haven't even played it. It's the only reason final fantasy 7 is so "critically acclaimed". It's the only reason people who haven't played it want to buy it. Let me recount from my childhood playing FF7. The first 2 good games me and my brother got for our PS2 were FF7 & FF8 (we're FF heads). As I played FF8 I really enjoyed everything about it. The story, the gameplay, the strategy involved in the junctioning, the secrets. All really made me just want to keep playing the game (unluckily for me i wasn't too good at RPGs back then). And then I started playing FF7. As a child I was deterred by the graphics, though I bit the bullet and kept playing. I liked the limit breaks... And materia was pretty cool ( I'm part of a minority that prefers/preferred junctioning). But that was about all I liked about the game. Even at the time i realised the amount of stereotypes used in the game. The story was predictable, there was spelling mistakes there are parts (mostly minigames) where the game progresses so slowly you want to play something in fast forward to make up for it. And just a few months ago I picked it up again and had another go at it (people tell me how great it is, I figured I must have been too young to realise). Much to my surprise it took me a while to realise how much i hated it. And don't get me wrong I'm a fan of traditional turn based RPGs its just this one didn't get my boat going. And then to see if my judgement of FF8 had also changed i picked it up and started playing. Much to my surprise it was better than i remembered.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not comparing the two, but if I were to compare FF7 with any other RPG of it's time then the latter is always going to be better. I'm saying once and for all FF7 is not that great... fanboys get over it. That was a bit of a rant but hopefully it might actually get through to people. And I'm not looking for a flame war, I'm not looking for an argument, and as obnoxious as I might have sounded I was merely presenting my opinion. So what of FF7 now? I still own it, it's still part of my collection it's just that if i were to make a list of the games in my collection that i liked from highest to lowest, I'd say FF7 would be near about the bottom. The only good thing I have to say about it is that it's quite impressive that Square was able to do those graphics in 1997.

 

I think alot of people do this-not just ff7 fanboys.

I used to do that with pokemon before I got it XD


They are just kids...just ignore them and go on.

I might try this...

 

I loved Final Fantasy VII when it was originally released. I was 12 years old and mad mad mad for FF7. I must have played through the game 6 or 7 times while in junior high. Now, more than a decade later, I revisited Final Fantasy VII through the magic of emulation, and was horrified to find it really doesn't hold up very well. I still dig the dark tone and some of the NPC dialogue is sharp and more acerbic than in your typical RPG (especially PS1) but the minigames are absolutely terrible and the stereotypes are difficult for an adult to ignore. A lot of this game just doesn't mean what it used to. I think Final Fantasy IX (or tactics) is the best FF on PS1.

 

You already failed when you started with the WORST Final Fantasy ever, and then you followed up with a Final Fantasy that is graphically inferior? Of course you'll feel that FF7 sucked.

This coming from someone who also blasts on FF7. FF6 is the shiznit!

 

actually im not a big ff fan but there games are fun so i was starting from the first game and right now im at 6.

 

I actually felt that FFX was the best! I absolutely loved FFX's battle system!

 

I agree. Even though i like FFX, FFX - 2 was not... as good...

 

Well, I gotta agree, but then again, I have yet to find a good FF game. -_-

 

I actually like FFX-2, i love 1000 words

 

. FF6 was good yes. And just because legions of people didn't like FF8 doesn't mean I don't. You really think i care about FF's graphics? even as a kid I didn't judge games by there graphics, I'm not that kind of gamer. And again I wasn't blasting FF7 just presenting my opinion. If you don't like it then ignore me and go chew some gum.

And i actually don't mind FFX-2, it's really styled like a chicks anime, but the combat was pretty good so I didn't mind. The only unbearable part about it is the opening sequence, on which my dad walked in on me and was like WTH...

 

FF6 has to many characters so it's just a mesh of storylines, FF7 is indeed overrated but it's a great game for its time, after all FF7 did boast as the first FF to use polygon errr... 3d model. FF8 is a predictable love story, with totally annoying characters. FF9 is just whimsical as they get.

As for me FF died after FF9, although I'm having second thoughts after seeing the trailer for FFXIV

 

As already pointed out by other users, Final Fantasy 7 had the merit of being the 1st 3D FF, so ANYTHING felt like real and all-involving (I still remember the FMV when you escape Midgard or arrive at the Gold Saucer for the first time). After that experience, everyone felt addicted to the FF series. Problems came out with the "second wave of gamers", the PS2 and the concept of casual gaming. Sony started promoting the "relying on past achievements" politcs and then KH came out.
I don't know why Square had to boast Sephiroth so much, but then all the kids started loving that dark-silent-evil guy and everyone started acclaiming FF7 once again, forgetting that now there were more solid rpgs with better game mechanics, story, etc. (because in the end, if we don't look at all the spin offs about FF7, the story is simply about somebody who wants to detroy the Earth, to cut it short)

I think that FF7 was a good title at that time, but has to remain where it is. No more spin offs.
Or at least, that's my opinion.

PS: Final Fantasy died with the 9th chapter for me too.

 

this is seriously one of the funniest things I've ever heard. Junctioning ruined it for me, it just gets to the point where you drag out boss battles to draw rare magic from them endlessly, which is just too boring.

and don't honestly try to say there's skill in it.. you just get your magic, go to auto and juntion, I can never be arsed going through EVERY stat to set my junction to optimum... I'd must rather let the computer do it... although sometimes it gets it wrong and doesn't optimise it which pisses me off.

you also mention you prefer the graphics of FF8... I can understand this with the FMVs, but the actual graphics of the game? FF7 may be alot blockier, but it has MUCH smoother edges, one of the things I take the piss out of FF8 for is the amazingly pixelated graphics that almost make my eyes bleed.

Now don't take me wrong here, I don't dislike FF8. I <3 all FF games (up to FF10, yeah that's right, I like FF10... it was original and had the most gameplay of a final fantasy up to the point it was released, the sphere grid is better than materia and junctioning anyway). But FF7 and FF8 always pissed me off because of the character building system, in the end, all your characters are EXACTLY the same, they either all have the same, best materia (on FF7) or have the best magic juntioned to their stats (on FF8) making all the characters identical apart from limit breaks. Which majorly ruined the games for me. FF10 is also responsible for this once you finish a characters initial sphere grid and they start to move into the other sphere grids. Make characters individual square! so I don't just have the characters with the best limit breaks in my team!

My favourite is FF9 because it keeps the modern 3D aspect of the final fantasy games but keeps in touch with the oldschol aspects, such as jobs. Jobs make a final fantasy game what it is IMO, it makes you choose which sort of character would be good at different parts of the game. For example, you can only power level early on in the game with blue magic, but ONLY quinna has blue magic so you up using it for that purpose. It makes the game more in depth with different combinations of teams mixing different jobs.

If they made the characters more individual (from a battling perspective) than I think the games would of appealed to me alot more. The reason I still <3 them is because, like with all final fantasy games, the story is almost perfect... I can't beleive you actually don't like FF7, I mean, how can you not like Cloud and Sephiroth?

Overall, although I rate 7, 8 and 10 the lowest out of final fantasies I would still rate them extemely high as games in general. I don't dislike them at all, just don't like them as much as other final fantasies.

...you better mean it died after the 9th chapter there... I don't care if you don't like FF10

 

uh...yeah typed wrong XD
FF9 has just one big flaw though...the Trance Mode which ALWAYS triggers in random worthless battles. They could have made it just like a Limit Break, so players could choose.
It has my favourite learning ability system by the way (the same of FFTA)

 

I really, really loved Final Fantasy IX, a lot.

 

IMO the order on PSX goes 9 > 7 > 8

I agree mostly with fdgsa regarding the job systems (junctioning was massive watse of time >_<), in FF7 & FF8 it allowed each character to be capable of the same things, thus making the abundance of characters pointless (in battles & strategy wise anyway), it’s better the party members have more unique traits and commands.
To me FF9’s story had most depth, and also had best side quest/secrets of all the 3 like the mognet and chocobo ones which were worth doing.

on PS2 10 was too linear for my tastes, I prefer 12 over it…

too convenient though, you’d only ever use them for boss battles that way(apart from quina’s maybe XD),

one thing that did piss me off with the game, that f**king battle intro!, idk if it was loading or whatever, it was too long.

 

It's funny because I just got my grunny little paws on a copy of 7. 8 and 9 are like 60 bucks at the store that sells them. D: but it's not great but it's still pretty good. I mean, sure it's your opinion that it's terrible, but you don't need to bash it. And do a terrible job at it. I mean yoou say you aren't comparing 7 and 8 but really you are. You keep going back and saying "8 is better than 7 in this factor also". But also, like I said, it's all subjective, you don't have to enrage those fanboys that will go "OMG FF7 IS AMAZING" in the gaming lounge thread. If you are looking to troll, do it in the debate forums.

 

Why should trolling be exclusive to the debate forum?