Don't Ask Don't Tell repealed

A great moment in American history.
I'm watching the president give a speech right now as he prepares to sign the repeal.
Little things that give me a glimpse of hope that my country is not turning into a theocracy after all.
I would like to know what are your opinions on this ban.
Do you agree with it, or are you a bigot?
Lol, j/k...please share your pov.

 

I just googled it because I didn't know what it was. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_ask,_don%27t_tell
I think its a load of shite if im honest, I thought we were past discrimination, having a black president and all...
Its good that this has been repealed, nothing like that ever bothered me in the army.

 

You think DADT was a load of shite or that repealing it was?
I think you meant DADT was shite, since it was discriminatory towards gays.(Just saw your edit, and i was right)
Yes, discrimination is still alive and well in this country.
Repealing this policy is one more step towards a sane, rational country.
But there are still other things that need to be done.
Discrimination will be hard to get rid of on a personal level (maybe impossible) but we need to get it out of our policies.

 

Yeah I put the edit in because I saw how it looked, I do tend to miss stuff out and leave it in my head.

 

In all honesty, I think DADT took long enough to get repealed.
DADT was ridiculous, in my opinion, and this is a step in the right direction; which is something that has been rare here lately.

 

It's all well and good saying that you can stop discrimination but the real problem is proving it exists in the first place. People will find ways around laws like this with some other bs excuses as to why certain people cannot be employed.

 

Personally I wouldn't employ a woman that is pregnant and in a few months will want a year off then expect to come back. And I would have to give her maternity pay and pay someone else to cover for her! But she has the right to do that and its discrimination to not give her the job because she want a year off. What about the poor guy who worked for that year and now has to leave? You may call it discrimination but I say its common sense.

 

You might want to learn the law first. For a woman to be eligible for SMP (statutory maternity pay) she has to be employed for atleast 25 weeks by the 15th week of pregnancy and even then SMP is only payed for 39 weeks (6 weeks at 90% of her average wage and 33 weeks at either £125.88 or 90%, which ever is less.) not a year as you put it. Depending on whether the mother takes extended leave, anything after 26 weeks, the employer does not have to offer her the same role, as long as the new position isn't less favourable. As for the 'poor guy', he knew what he was signing up for. He would've been told before accepting the job that it's only maternity cover, and the length of employment will be written into his contract.

You may call it common sense, I call it discrimination.

As for the original point? Welcome to the 21st Century America.

 

Like I said, a lot of money to waste when I could have taken on the other guy in the first place. I wasnt sure about actual dates and stuff but that really wasn't the point.
You may call it discrimination but until you run a business and moneys tight, im sticking with common sense.

 

I'm sorry, but not employing a woman solely because she's pregnant/might become pregnant is discrimination, there's no other way round it.

 

Well maybe, but I would not take on a pregnant woman knowing its going to cost me a lot more then employing somebody else.
If shes not pregnant thats different, if shes the best candidate I would give her the job. Small businesses cannot afford to give out that kind of money.

 

DADT was a shitty law. Homosexuals have been in almost every war the US fought, and you know they've been having relationships with other members.

this should be more in the news section

 

Thank you, i like it here.

Yeah, i started writing it there, but then i thought other members might disagree with the repeal, and we would end up debating it's merits.
Seems like the News section really is the place for it though, so if any mods want to move it, be my guest.

 

A employer is looking for a employee who will be able to do the work they are paid to do. Simple solution? Hire the pregnant woman as a temp and then when she's out, hire someone else permenantly.

And you pulled that 'might' right out of your ass because msg specificly said a woman that is pregnant.

but anyway, start up a buisnuess and comprise your workforce out of pregnant women. Lets see how long it takes for your buisnuess to go bankrupt.

 

When did the conversation went from homosexuality to pregnancy?

I think the whole thing is a nice gesture. Though IMO, it's not going to do much for general discrimination though. Country stance, maybe, but certainly won't help relieve the common stuff they have to face everyday from close-minded assholes. It's like the country's moving forward but the citizens are standing their ground. ;\

 

Lets straight something out. This don't ask, don't tell in the military, is this the law that says, CO/Commanding officers/fellow soldiers, can't ask you what is your sexual orientation/ or are you a homo questions and the soldiers/you shouldn't answer those questions/ tell anybody that they are gay.

Is that right?

 

Can't quite understand what you say, but from the link MSG provided, it's basically broken down to:
1. Officers aren't allowed to dig and question applicant's sexuality.
2. While on the armed force, any homo/bi people aren't allowed to talk about anything related to their sexualities.
3. If they do, they'll be discharged.
4. Openly gay people are not allowed in the military service.

That's the idea, I think.

 

Thats the most retarded law i've ever heard of people had no problem letting gays die for their country before then suddenly its wrong t o let them fight then when they stay home other can do what? Call them unpatriotic cause they "refused to fight?" thats like telling a girl she has to tie down her boobs and not let people know shes a girl if she wants to fight in the war and if people find out then she gets sent home forcefully then mocked by her community cause of the laws created by prejudiced people.

 

discrimination will always be there as long as people is difference from each other.