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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by titen96, Dec 19, 2009.

  1. titen96

    titen96 Well-Known Member

    the save file of the original rom?
     
  2. TirithRR

    TirithRR Well-Known Member

    Yes.

    Trimming just removes junk data used to completely fill the game card. It doesn't remove the game data.
     
  3. titen96

    titen96 Well-Known Member

    so you mean that people who make nds games just use up the rest of the space of a card?

    why?
     
  4. 1prinnydood

    1prinnydood Guest

    Yes. Because the size of the memory available to make a game is in divisions of memory, 1MB/2MB/4MB/8MB/16MB/32MB/64MB/128MB and 256MB, so if you want to make a game that is 37MB in size then you need to use a 64MB Rom to fit it all in. Anything over the 37MB's is padded out with rubbish that has nothing to do with the game you made. So yes people who make NDS games add garbage just to make up the space on the Rom.
     
  5. TirithRR

    TirithRR Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure exactly why they do it.
    Or if it's even the creators that do it, and not the nature of the DS Game ripping that just copies all the data, even the unused space.
     
  6. titen96

    titen96 Well-Known Member

    what about the official games from nintendo they dont do that
     
  7. TirithRR

    TirithRR Well-Known Member

    Yes, they do, all Nintendo DS game cards do it.
    That is why every NDS ROM is a factor of 2 in size (like Prinnydood shows). It's not just a coincidence that every ROM is 16MB, 32MB, 64MB, 128MB, 256MB, etc. exactly. They are all padded to fill the game card size.
     
  8. titen96

    titen96 Well-Known Member

    i say that the mario and luigi games have 51 mb for partners in time and 81 for bowsers inside story
     
  9. TirithRR

    TirithRR Well-Known Member

    Compressed maybe, but uncompress them (extract) and do not trim them, they will be full size, a power of 2. (128 probably)


    By the way, Titen, did you try out the CycloDS 1.56 Beta 5? They added a new auto-patcher for the newest anti-piracy called "stealth mode", it seems that it helps out with quite a few of the problem ROMs.
     
  10. anandjones

    anandjones Well-Known Member

    They don't choose to do it, the data is automatically padded to the full capacity of the cartridge the ROM image is being written to.
     
  11. titen96

    titen96 Well-Known Member