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AMD phenom... IT BEATS THE PANTS OF THE TOP SPEC CORE 2 QUAD EXTREME!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Computers & Modding' started by sir spamalot, Nov 20, 2007.

  1. sir spamalot

    sir spamalot Well-Known Member

    ...just kidding :'(


    http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3153

    here i was holding off buying into intel's 2 core 2 duo's slapped together processor in the hope amd would respond like they did with the old athlon 64... i was hoping for amd to trounce intel, even b a little bit... the name "Phenom" sounded mean, and tough... i wanted this to not only be cheaper but deliver more bang for buck... i wanted so much, but reading some reviews it just didn't happen.

    at least the ATi radeon HD3870 graphics card had teh advantage of price, it'll retail cheaper than the 256MB geforce 8800gt.

    i think the reason is amd haven't yet got the hang of building 4 core processors properly, i can see the 2 core phenoms competing against the intel core 2's, but the 4 cores have practically bitten the dust. they have 3 cores, but that's only because 1 core doesn't perform as well, so has to be shut down. that's good for people who just want a fast 3 core processor (and i'd probably get one), but not good for the end yields if most of them have to be turned into 3 cores.

    i personally hope AMD take the mid-range to basic end of the market (with the 3 core and 2 core phenoms) because so far it seems they've been battered at the 4 core game

    any comments to my mindless rant?
     
  2. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    4 core architecture is a new field, and problems are bound to occur when dealing with microelectronics on that scale. Give them time.
     
  3. sir spamalot

    sir spamalot Well-Known Member

    i just thought i'd get it all off my chest... i wanted amd to be at least price competitve but it just isn't now (though you are right, it is very early). i had a look at some am2+ motherboards, all with the amd chipsets - all over £145, which isn't good enough to be price competitive.

    amd claim they'll start shipping 45nm chips somewhere in 2008, which i don't like, they're being forced to change their manufacturing processes while intel can dabble in it for a good couple of years.

    what if amd decided to produce 55nm chips like the ones in the ati radeon hd3*** series? i just don't like this game of constant catchup, the 3 core approach is a good one, if not accidental. i think they shouldn't scale up in multiples of 2 like intel have (and can do), i'd duly pay for a 6 core processor because 6 (or 7) is a nice number.
     
  4. swangtal

    swangtal Member

    I went by the gamespot review, and I feel like the price is actually quite competitive by my standard. Price per performance is very much justifiable to me. If you want extreme performance, Intel's the way to go. AMD if you only play game for leisure and don't care to enough to overclock your computer (read: me)
     
  5. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    If you do video editing, AMD are better.
     
  6. ultra

    ultra Guest

    how so??
     
  7. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    AMD processors have more instruction sets and they are specially coded to favour the kind of calculations involved in video rendering, leading to a significant speed boost when using software that can take advantage of 3DNOW/enhanced 3DNOW.